I think it was about the time that the SEC started trying to curtail short selling that I finally decided that we're in panic mode. The market's actually flat, as I write this, although Fannie (FNM) and Freddie (FRE) are down 20%, maybe because the Ackman plan (.pdf) actually makes quite a lot of sense.
Ackman's idea is to wipe out the current shareholders, and then create new equity by taking each dollar of senior unsecured debt, and replacing it with 90 cents of new debt and 10 cents of new equity -- a much more sensible leverage ratio than what we've got right now. The government would put a floor under the value of the equity, so the debt holders would retain at least face value, even if they lose some coupon income on the 10% of their debt which becomes equity. If I were the US government I'd go a little bit further and guarantee the next three years' coupons too, maybe give existing shareholders a small stake as well, but that's really a niggle.
In any event, the SEC response was to ban naked shorting of Fannie and Freddie. You can still buy puts, load up on protection, borrow stock and sell it, all that kind of thing; you just can't sell stock you haven't borrowed.
The most charitable view of this is that the move is political, designed to make it seem like the SEC is Doing Something in the face of all the chaos. But it doesn't look like that: it looks like the SEC is happily signing on to the belief that stocks wouldn't be falling if it weren't for short-sellers. In other words, the Powers That Be don't trust the market, and the SEC has gone from facilitating price discovery to making it harder.
Meanwhile, check out the Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) share price: down another 10% today, to seriously distressed territory:
The stock is now yielding close to 12 per cent and sits on a discount of 40 per cent to forecast book value.
You think that's all the fault of short-sellers too? I don't. I think that financials in general are toxic right now, and that the market has to get its revulsion for them out of its system. I think people who bought at 2x an overstated book value should finally give up and sell at 0.5x the new, lower, book value, and I think they should be proved smart as a couple more big retail banks get taken over by the FDIC and their equity goes all the way to zero. And then I think people should realize that the sun is still rising in the mornings, that good borrowers like InBev (INBVF.PK) can still line up $45 billion in financing, that people can still buy houses if they're able to put 10% down, and generally that the financial system still works fine. It might not be hugely profitable for shareholders, but it's still capable of driving the economy.
So let the short-sellers do their worst. It'll just hasten the necessary and inevitable, and that's probably a good thing.
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This is just another attempt by Ackman to create a crisis in a company that he has shorted. I'm astonished by the gall of someone who goes on CNBC, states that he is short a stock, and then politely suggests a restructuring plan that sends that stock to zero in order to "benefit America". Give me a break. I hope he loses his shirt.
Most obvious is what had happened in the morning of July 14 .
FNM / FRE traded over $ 11 before the bell in response to the Sunday's backing announcement .
After the bell , the two were short sell down to about $ 7 in about a 10 minutes time .
Not just the said two , all bank stock were short sell down drastically .
The short sellers are well fed in the expense of the banks' equity .
The concerted power released in such a short time can only be done by some conspired group of short sellers .
I do think that the Administration is doing the right thing in curbing short sellings , at least on a temporary basis .
USA is facing a financial war and not just a simply market of supply and demand .
Short sellers can take a vacation leave to spend their money easy earn in expense of the economy .
Give the banks a chance to survive , please .
Let the investors get back to their old habits of viewing that a significant rise would mean a sign of recovery from the rock bottom price rather than being a signal to a further major drop .
Naked shorting should be banned in all companies, end of story.
I remember a day last week where there were 300+ million shares of FRE traded. There are only about 650 million shares in the company available and institutional ownership is about 95%. What is basically going on is that people are just rapid fire short selling the stocks dozens of times in a day, covering, and then shorting again. All the while they don't have any of the shares they are selling.
And the Ackman plan, give me a friggin break. The guy is short the stock! His plan for the companies will make him a fortune, if I were a news editor I would be embarrassed to publish the plan. It's ridiculous. I hope Ackman gets taken out to the woodshed on his short positions. These companies have problems (and they should given this is the worst housing bust EVER) but they aren't insolvent.
I hope this is just the beginning....bring back the uptick rule too
Lame story Felix
Oh, and by the way, these two entities are not even in any real financial distress, their writedowns are small compared to the rest of the sector; the powers that be are taking action in the fear of a panic against them in the market. Do you think threatening to wipe out their current shareholders is going to instill confidence in the new shareholders?
I've always questioned the value of short selling - naked or not. They don't add any value to the overall scheme of things. Someone suggested it makes the market more efficient by identifying bad stocks - what a load of rubbish. A company which is badly run will not survive in the long run anyway - its shareholders will want accounting from its management and shareholders who cannot take the risk will sell the stock anyway. What do non-shareholders or short sellers positively add to the situation in this instance other than to act like a vulture circulating round what could potentially be a dying victim. Short sellers' intent is to hasten the death, not prevent the death, and that to me, is the most non-value adding activity of all time. Over time, this will serve only to crim free enterprise and prevent healthy risk taking.
Some elevate short selling to taking risk. What noble risk do you take when you borrow someone else gun only to shoot the guy you borrowed from? What is wrong with this current generation? Well, its no wonder the market is losing its integrity - just ask heads of listed companies - who gives them bigger headaches: their major shareholders or short sellers? I'm sure its the latter and I wonder, as a minority shareholder, why anyone would waste time with someone who has a short position on the company.
The SEC should ideally not just ban naked shorts but all shorts. In addition, they should also have disclosure rules that make sure everyone knows who holds beneficial ownerships to short positions, just like everyone knows who holds beneficial ownerships to long positions. All shareholders should be specifically educated and told that their shares will be used for scrip lending business by the custodians and brokers and be given an option to opt out as well as to determine their price and tenor of lending.
There they go, talking free market rules and regulation about an entity that is one of the worst examples of socialist subsidized fiat money mirages the so called capitalist world has ever seen.
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Fannie and Freddie ARE the US mortgage market and the US mortgage market is secured by real estate that peak to trough is going to fall 30% or more. I'd say that will put Fannie and Freddie ultimately underwater by $1 trillion or so. It won't look like that now, but how about when nobody can buy a house without 20% down (or even 30% down) and everyone suddenly learns that only 15% of Americans can afford to do that? That realization will send prices down another leg for sure.
I think that if Fannie and Freddie's shareholders want to speak up about their right as investors in a capitalist system to not be jerked around, then that right should be respected and Congress should pass a resolution very clearly stating that there is no federal backing for either entity other than the paltry $2.25 billion credit line each has with the US Treasury. That's it. Period.
The problem is that implicit promise (to socialize losses by backing them with taxpayer money) combined with ridiculously weak regulation and huge potential gains for investors and managers creates a perverse incentive for management to take big risks right now - HUGE risks. If they win, everybody makes out great. If they lose, the Feds come in and make sure bond holders don't lose anything. I wish the US Treasury would back me in my business decisions like that with taxpayer money.
Fannie and Freddie have hurt the US housing market for 30 years by pushing up prices. They've not made housing more affordable. They've made it far less affordable by working with a coterie of corrupt banks, real estate agents and appraisers to push up prices as high as possible to expand their lending as widely as possible because it's how they make money. If it weren't for Fannie and Freddie, home prices would probably be 30% lower than they are right now and that means that 90% of Americans would need mortgages 30% smaller than they need right now.
The key is less lending not more. Lower prices make houses more affordable. Bigger loans do not make houses more affordable. Bigger loans make houses more expensive and hence less affordable. Banks will always claim lending makes things more affordable and the sellers who work with banks (whether the real estate industrial complex, universities in student lending, or any seller) will claim that loans make the product more affordable. But the racket is that sellers and lenders work together to push up prices because they both benefit from higher prices.
I think if you're trading with a mainstream broker you're fine. If not I would just give them a call. I think it's impossible to know where exactly the shares come from.
And selling short has IMMENSE value to it. If you can't sell short, the only position you could take in equities (excluding options, etc. I'm just talking purely equities) is that they will appreciate. Equities are mispriced all the time, and causing people to only be able to make one-sided bets will cause them to be even more mispriced. It would really screw up the pricing and cause even worse bubbles than what we see now. It's naked shorting that is ridiculous and should have been banned a long time ago.
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The notion that short selling should be "banned" or such statements are insane. Are you people real? It must come from people on Wall Street who want securities to go only one way...up....and that sounds a lot like what people were thinking about ah...housing
On Jul 15 08:40 PM Ops did it again wrote:
> My guess is that we would not be in the mess we are if it had been
> possible to "short" houses in the first place. Funny thing about
> the SEC is that they only understand ever increasing prices. Like
> the rumors thing. People are acting on rumors because the rest of
> the "official" news are mostly lies so what's left but rumors? The
> SEC would do much better by going after the pumpers
Like I said, stock prices can come off too when shareholders sell - we don't need the short sellers to do it for them. Its the crazy notion that many shortists have that they have a 'right' to short sell. Come on, you are borrowing stocks from shareholders - please get it right.
On Jul 15 08:53 PM OregonRain wrote:
> Sean makes a lot of sense to me. It is one of the clearer things
> I have read on all this.
>
> The notion that short selling should be "banned" or such statements
> are insane. Are you people real? It must come from people on Wall
> Street who want securities to go only one way...up....and that sounds
> a lot like what people were thinking about ah...housing
As for the wisdom of the shorts. Consider that Fannie and Freddie never had to maintain the same cap levels of their competition, but heck that provision was in their congressional mandate.
Once the overall real estate market started dropping how could Fannie and Freddie escape the same harsh realities faced by other lenders?
I can't take credit for this, but Joe Batapaglia, who was once one of the worst shills on the Street, has recently become far more objective. I still don't agree with everything he says, but he characterized Fannie and Freddie as an example of federal government SIV's. I thought that was pretty shrewd. How many SIV's are in similar shape?
Unless and until housing values stop dropping the entire financial services sector will remain problematic, and will hold the economy and market in check. Rather than a micro discussion of Fannie and Freddie, we need a macro discussion of what monetary and fiscal policies are needed to first stop the home value bleeding and slowly repair equity.
Most "good" companies cannot be affected by the short sellers unless the short interest is allowed to be equal to the shares outstanding, which is hard to reach 50%, without naked shorts. If you are an investor, you should not fear shorts as the are doing exactly what you are trying to do and that is make money. Do not make this a closed and back room market. Let the markets be free.
To the extent that you are saying that shorting should not be allowed...like I said...that is nutty. I realize that this is not the best of times for those in the "financial community" but from out here in tree land it looks like it should have occurred long ago. Good companies do ah good.. Companies that are poorly run by imperial CEO's like the guy at Bear for one (he was out playing bridge when the company was burning I seem to recall) deserve what they get and actually deserve a good deal more...and I am not talking about a larger severance deal.
People are starting to pay attention to this as it has finally come to affect their lives. It has gone on way too long. We shall see if we have a melt down or not...we are way too close. But, judging from the comments here and in tree land the "rabble" will not be pleased until those responsible are held accountable. When the Democrats sweep in they will be more than happy to provide the political circus for the people.
On Jul 16 01:26 AM OregonRain wrote:
> Glassbox, to the extent that you are saying that you need to actually
> borrow the shares to short...I agree. No issue. Seems to me that
> "naked shorting" is or should be stopped (illegal) for all companies
> not just the ones like Goldman who have friends in high places...like
> ah Paulson to start with.
>
> To the extent that you are saying that shorting should not be allowed...like
> I said...that is nutty. I realize that this is not the best of times
> for those in the "financial community" but from out here in tree
> land it looks like it should have occurred long ago. Good companies
> do ah good.. Companies that are poorly run by imperial CEO's like
> the guy at Bear for one (he was out playing bridge when the company
> was burning I seem to recall) deserve what they get and actually
> deserve a good deal more...and I am not talking about a larger severance
> deal.
>
> People are starting to pay attention to this as it has finally come
> to affect their lives. It has gone on way too long. We shall see
> if we have a melt down or not...we are way too close. But, judging
> from the comments here and in tree land the "rabble" will not be
> pleased until those responsible are held accountable. When the Democrats
> sweep in they will be more than happy to provide the political circus
> for the people.
Not a bad day..
On Jul 16 01:57 AM Takayama wrote:
> Prohibiting short sellers may distort the market, in favor of the
> bulls, helping them to push up market prices artificially. Shorts
> provide a balanced and free market. Without shorts, is to allow markets
> to be manipulated.
the sec bans an already illegal practice, but just temporary and just for a few selected darling stocks. THAT IS THE REAL BIG STORY - and nobody picks it up? It#s like allowing a killer to kill whomever he wants but , please, not bankers from wallstreet for the next 30 days.
and of course, the sec may decide tro extend that banning of illegal stuff beyond bankers from wallstreet. but before, we allow the killers to kill some more - as long as it is not the beloved bankers. heck, some of the killers might be bankers, uhm?
www.sec.gov/news/press...
BNP Paribas Securities Corp. BNPQF or BNPQY
Bank of America Corporation BAC
Barclays PLC BCS
Citigroup Inc. C
Credit Suisse Group CS
Daiwa Securities Group Inc. DSECY
Deutsche Bank Group AG DB
Allianz SE AZ
Goldman, Sachs Group Inc GS
Royal Bank ADS RBS
HSBC Holdings PLC ADS HBC and HSI
J. P. Morgan Chase & Co. JPM
Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. LEH
Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc. MER
Mizuho Financial Group, Inc. MFG
Morgan Stanley MS
UBS AG UBS
Freddie Mac FRE
Fannie Mae FNM
Naked short selling has been illegal forever.
It is also difficult to do as no prime broker will allow it. There is very little of it going on. The author obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.
Blaming shorts for what is happening to financial stocks is nonsense.
Blame the managements who made risky loans. Blame the regulators who were asleep at the switch. Blame Congress for enacting legislation which put pressure on lenders to act imprudently.
This country has bankers who do not know how to make loans, an auto industry that cannot make an auto anybody wants or needs, an airline industry that cannot price their service adequately and a homebuilder industry that doesn't know how to stop building in the face of sharply reduced demand and much larger supply.
That's why we are in trouble.